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Post  Admin Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:06 pm

I' am Sweden here and we control most of the oil. That's the good news. The bad news in that we're fighting an excellent clan. No freebies here. I propose that we only expand into NPCs when it absolutely 100% makes sense. Here's my list, feel free to argue for others.

Sweden takes Finland and helps with Denmark. (Copenhagen maybe.)
Morocco takes Tunisia.
Germany takes the rest of Denmark and maybe helps with Poland.
Russia takes most, if not all, of Poland. Remember to watch the Black Sea.
Finally GB takes Iceland and waits for an opportunity in either Belgium or France... WAIT being the key word. Amphibious assaults are so risky, GB may wind up just ferrying troops to Germany while keeping a decent defense.

Main strategy here is to take our time. Build forts along your borders from day 1!!!! I can trade iron and wood from the get go and GB will have some iron to trade as well. We have the oil so we can afford to either let them crash against our forts while we build arty or have them wait and try the same though our arty production will probably be 2-3 times theirs.

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Post  Zabralkan Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:48 pm

I would rush an attack of Russia with Germany against Austria Hungary. Reinforcements from the Ottoman should take some time. Sweden should send 75% of his troops to defend Germany from France, and if overrun, make a counterattack. Let's hope Zeek connect soon, or we will have to change him. England will also send 70% of his troops for the same matter. We can expect italy to reinforce Austria Hungary, so either Sweden or England will have to aid there. We can't let them take the initiative. We should always have it. The first attack defines a lot, since you have yet no fortresses or artillery.

Morroco, as always, focus on the artillery. You should have it at the first second possible. Don't create any factory in Tangeirs, since it will be damaged by the enemy artilley.

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Post  Zeek33 Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:25 am

Will take Iceland, build a couple of factories and a lot of fortresses. Soon I get some artillery to defend from the sea attacks the better. Should make the game much easier.

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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:50 am

You would need to send at least 30 troops to take over iceland. 30 troops that won't help where the true battle will be. For me, you should help with the defense of Germany, that is surronded by enemies. And the fortresses are somewhat pointless in Great Britain where you can kill in the shore all your enemies. A complete loss of iron. Nevertheless, I would build up the fortress in the capital just in case.

We must take an offensive position, not a defensive one in this game. I have now an even better idea than before. You and Sweden can attack France while Russia and Germany attacks Austria Hungary. Sweden with 100% of his troops, since he has no enemy close, and you with 70%, leaving 30% to defend of any possible attack. Killing them at shore will be your duty, so if you think you won't be connected for a while, or you must disconnect and they are already coming forward to attack you, then just send them at the shore to wait, or even better, set the timer to arrive an hour after they start the disembark.

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Post  Admin Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:13 pm

I must disagree, wholeheartedly. Attacking France through Germany will be a disaster. My morale will plummet. I WILL die. No doubt about it. If he throws up a couple forts I will be a dead man twice over. A much better idea is for me to either take Belgium or Poland to either help with France or A-H. Crossing a body of water, taking a province with a connecting province, being far away from my capital. It all spells disaster. Defending is always 100x easier in the beginning. France can have a level 1 (2 even) fort in Nancy before me and/or Britain can hit them there. Remember this is WWI, attacking in that narrow strip (IE 1 province to 1 province) will result in defeat. Rather Germany should build up Strasburg while Sweden, Germany, and Russia all take A-H out of the game. We connect with 5 (five!) A-H provinces, that is much, much, much harder to defend. Britain should be watching France and (if he can spare a couple troops) helping defend Germany. I think that Britain should take Iceland (his decision in the end) because he has nothing better to do with his troops. An investment in the Germany does not have to worry about an attack from France or Italy for quite some time. Besides Sweden/Russia can do the heavy lifting if we have to.

For right now I will send all my troops to Berlin. We can go from there.
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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:00 pm

Indeed Italy is about to defend AH, so yes, I like an all on against AH. Let's do it. But except Morroco, that will gain strategic provinces from attacking AI, I don't like the idea of wasting any single troop against AI. Perhaps France will launch a 50% strike against Germany, aided by Italy and Spain that has nothing else to do, and we will need those troops. My spies will be on the Otto.

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Post  Admin Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:15 pm

I'll have one spy in France and one in A-H.
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Post  Zeek33 Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:09 pm

Both currently in France. May move one to AH soon.

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Post  alexandermrgn Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:39 am

So, as Germany-- to Denmark...or not to Denmark?

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Post  Admin Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:43 am

Probably not. Unless you have a good reason. Taking the capital would be beneficial.... but I don't know if it would be beneficial enough.

Oh and for some reason I already have RoW with Belgium.
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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:45 am

alexandermrgn wrote:So, as Germany-- to Denmark...or not to Denmark?

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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 am

And, come on... You are surrounded by enemies. Do you really want to loose so hard for just 3 very lame resourses territories. When AH attacks you with France you will have half your troops attacking an AI like a fool.

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Post  alexandermrgn Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:02 am

I got my games confused actually haha The plan was to block Sweden being able to land in Denmark, but that seems a moot point...sorry for the mental lapse there, it's exam week Laughing If anyone wants to send me food though, that would be much appreciated!

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Post  Admin Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:03 pm

I have a lack of food myself. I hope to balance it though in the coming days. Yay for double fish provinces. Smile
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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:12 pm

I have plenty of food. Simply send what you need and I will accept.

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Post  Zeek33 Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:29 pm

Moving to help out Germany now. Iceland troops going back to England and English troops going to Germany. Realized the long travel isn't worth it. Too many preoccupied troops for 2 provinces.

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Post  Admin Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:35 am

Russia, time to attack A-H.

Moving troops into Germany... wow, everyone is coming to rape Germany.

Moving troops to defend and moving troops into Belgium to attack France through it.

God help us. Forts at Berlin if nothing else Alex.
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Post  Zabralkan Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:57 am

I still don't have RoW, and if I rush to the fortress it won't make the situation any better. The mistake has been made, and unfortunately this is what happens when we don't play as a team.

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Post  alexandermrgn Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:21 am

Forts is in Berlin...I think I may pull all of my troops back to there to make it the costliest attack, that way we should be able to regain most of the ground lost.

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Post  alexandermrgn Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:23 am

Wth spain there too I'm looking at over 200k so I'm rebuilding capital back in Hamburg, and pulling all of my troops back there, everyone should focus on a solid flanking attack while allthere troops are preoccuppied since fighting them in Germany is far from advantageous.

*Edit* I will be moving at 1PM GMT incase anyone has a better idea for what to do.

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Post  Admin Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:17 pm

I will be moving my forces to France. A counter-attack is the only way to turn this around. Seriously. With the amount of troops Alex was facing there really was no way to win. We just have to punish them for sending so many troops his way. If I can take Paris that will destroy French morale and make a huge opening. I'm more worried about Spain and Italy sending so many troops. There is almost nothing we can do about. Except that Morocco will have an easier time once they get some arty.
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Post  Admin Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Edit: Sorry, completely the wrong game.

Successful infiltration of France. Simultaneous failure against A-H. I will now concentrate mostly in France. If we don't pushing back soon we'll be in real trouble.
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Post  Zabralkan Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:26 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but for what I've seen... Do you get a huge advantage if you attack troops that are moving toward other objective? For example, if they are attacking a city, and you attack them with your troops just before they arrive?

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Post  ntcp Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:03 pm

I have 40,000 oil but I am OUT of raw materials. Anybody ready to start trading. I also have 21,000 grain and 22,000 fish, but no wood to build barracks, so I can provide sustenance as well. Struggling to upgrade to factories and can't build arty right now.

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Post  Admin Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:03 pm

Zab, not sure. That was definitely the case early in the game, but I'm pretty sure they patched most (if not all) of the advantage away.

ntcp I'll send some trades right now. Unfortunately I'm not as flush with materials as I'd like.... Oh and wait to invade Spain until you have arty. I hope you've got tons of arty building. I have 3 myself...
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