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Post  Admin Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:27 pm

In what must be a cruel joke we another first page alliance to fight (along with Ponyslaystation). The good news? Well if we win even 2/3 games here we will officially be in with the elite alliance of Supremacy.

I will wait a bit to post a strategy for this one because only 6/10 players are in. I just hope and pray we get Spain/Russia because if we don't and they do they'll have all the heavy material producers (Spain/Sweden) and heavy oil producers (Russia/Morocco) and heavy food producers (France/Russia). While we will have all the balanced economies with very little oil to go around. In other words we'll be fucked before the whistle and have to play beyond good to pull a win out of our hats.

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Post  Admin Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:11 pm

Well we missed the worst case scenario. Whew. The positive thing I see here is that we're in a clustered core while they are scatter all over oblivion. In fact the only border they share is Sweden and Russia.

So since we have a huge oil deficit our goal needs to be to take out Russia ASAP.

Britain takes Iceland. They will have to watch Sweden and France. Mostly (as is the usual case for Britain) they will watch and wait for an opportunity. If you're ballsy taking Belgium (or part of it) might help. Germany can help.

Italy can take Switzerland (they need the wood after all). other than that watch your shores as Morocco and Ottomans could land. Mostly watch France and wait for an opportunity to attack, likely in conjunction with Britain and/or Germany and/or Spain.

Germany will take mainland Denmark to deny an easy Swedish landing on mainland Europe. Main concentration will be taking down Russia with A-H.

A-H has literally nothing else to do but help take down Russia with Russia. A VERY secure starting location for this game. Will have to watch the Balkans and likely fight there after Russia is down.

Last but not least, Spain. Since you're bordered by both Morocco and France taking our Portugal isn't much of an option. At least not unless it can be done without overly weakening your many borders and costly provinces. Mostly Spain will watch Morocco and keep them at bay. At some point will participate in the massive take down of France. We do have 4 countries by it after all.

Beyond this I have to say that we are in a decent. Position. Oil is a major weakness, but at least we have one massive material producer and PLENTY of non-oil energy. Which is their main weakness. Plenty of food, plenty of materials, plenty of oil, but very little coal for railroads/battleships. However our biggest strength here and their biggest weakness is just our positions on the map. We are all clustered together (we can all easily help each other defend/attack) while they are all separated. If Russia commits troops to Poland/Finland/Balkans and becomes even easier to over-run we can have an easy victory overall.
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Post  Zabralkan Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:39 pm

I agree Russia is the vital strategic point of this map. I propose we all take it down (Except Spain, that will need to defend) Germany and Austria Hungary will attack with 2/3 of their troops. It doesn't matter who keep each territories because if anyone needs any resource, we will give. It is not necessary to trade in equal amounts, since we are only relocating the resources the way they are more useful in the short term (This is for every map). Italy will help us with only 1/3 of his troops, since he might be attacked from several flanks, specially if Zeek doesn't show up soon. So our mission is to DEFEND every territory at all cost, and conquer swiftly Russia. Then, we will see who has lost troops, who attacked, etc, and define from there. But my guess is that we should attack Sweden if triumphant.

England should send 50% of his troops to aid with the defenses of any of us, as a reinforcement.

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Post  Zeek33 Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:35 am

I was out for the day is all. I'm here now, ready for the game. If Italy is attacked, I will give them a hand.

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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:55 am

Oh, now that I come to think about it, Alexander (England) can help us with 50% of his troops. It is very possible the enemies know that Russia is also a vital point, so they will defend it at all cost, with the Otto and Sweden.

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Post  Admin Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:28 pm

We love you Zeek. Cool

I'm more or less in agreement except that Britain should stay put. If anything they can help Germany defend. Germany does have to worry about France and Sweden after all. Besides this they should scout France/Sweden. There is no way Britain will have decent morale to attack Russia. They can wait and build strength to attack Sweden (or France) when the time comes.
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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:06 pm

Agreed. My spies will be on the Otto

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Post  Admin Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 pm

My spies will be in France/Sweden.

Yay complete agreement in at least one game. Smile

My greatest hope is that I can attack through Poland too. I hate the idea of forcing all my troops to Riga...
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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:56 pm

I am in the same situation as you, but he won't be able to do much against 2 armies. Or I could distract him until you have the RoW, but we don't know for certain how many time that would be.

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Post  Zeek33 Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:32 pm

I have suspicions that France intends to attack me then, while I'm moving my troops to defend against them, Morocco will strike. All I know for sure though is more troops (quantity unknown) are heading towards their border provinces. I will build fortresses on that end and have my defence squads on 2 sides. Portugal I will have Right of Way with in case that is Morocco's entry point (charge through then try to destroy me). We'll see what happens. 1 spy France, 1 spy Morocco (for obvious reasons).

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Post  alexandermrgn Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:02 pm

Question on behalf of ntcp, who doesn't yet have posting permission-- Why aren't we rushing France?

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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:08 pm

Yeah, we easily can do that with Spain, Italy and England. 50% troops each one and we are done. 2 countries would be taken over quickly.

*Edit* Yet for that we would need that England doesn't attack Iceland, pinning down the other half of his forces.


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Post  alexandermrgn Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:11 pm

Shall we get prepped to do that then?

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Post  Zabralkan Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:13 pm

If most agree, yes.

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Post  Zeek33 Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:36 am

I agree. Let us wipe them out quickly. I think that would be best for us all, before they can build themselves up.

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Post  Admin Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:44 am

As long as Spain doesn't compromise their defense in taking out France, sure. I can afford to help with about 30k troops. Maybe a little more by attack time. I will hold back until he moves to reinforce though. If he doesn't move?.... Well I'm tying up a fair bit of his force then.
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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:51 am

alexandermrgn wrote:Shall we get prepped to do that then?

Well then, you should aid us then, like in 912. This will be an easy map I think.

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Post  Admin Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:41 am

I see no problem with taking France out.
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Post  alexandermrgn Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:09 am

Yep, I'm getting all set to go! Recalling my invasion of Iceland to get ready to move out on France. The best part is...RoW with Belgium!

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Post  alexandermrgn Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:10 am

I should have at least 50k troops ready to land in Belgium. Everyone keen to get set for the day after tomorrow? We shouldn't leave it longer than that or we'll have to start worrying about arty and such.

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Post  Admin Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:09 pm

I'm good to go whenever you gentlemen are. I doubt I'll push past Nancy very much, but if I have the opportunity I will take Reims and/or Paris. Minor food problems you see. Not to beat a dead horse, but opportunity is everything if you can push to the capital, do it. We can resource share once it is all said and done. There's no individual medals here. Paris is vulnerable to both Germany and Britain so with /any/ luck this should be an easier war.

Heck Russia might not be too bad with a little luck and a stupid Sweden.
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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:16 pm

I think Russia will be the hardest one. I will wait until I have RoW with any of the neutrial countries, so I can bypass the fortresses. It is factible that the Otto will aid Russia. I am most than certain that Sweden will do, even if only attacking Germany by the shore or by Denmark.

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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:18 pm

Nevertheless, my bet is that they don't know that the AI can give you RoW. Only because Russia has no fortresses in the other provinces. Yet I will still leave some troops to defend in case of an Otto attack.

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Post  Zabralkan Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:09 pm

The Otto won't aid Russia. He have all his troops in the continent.

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Post  Zeek33 Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:42 pm

Seen all the French Troops. Emailed to Grim (dunno how to post here) and have discovered a sea journey would be my best strategy, taking both Nantes and Ajaccio.

https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/17/17/75/74/france10.jpg

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